On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 at 14:07, D qunen'oS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
All of a sudden something came to my mind.
SuStel:
Let's go back to TKD. "In its fullest form, a Klingon sentence repeats the noun." The example is yaS legh puq 'ej yaS qIp puq.Okay. Here comes the key part, to which I will add my own emphasis: "It is possible, however, to use pronouns rather than nouns in the second of the joined sentences." A pronoun wants an antecedent. Not a postcedent. A pronoun wants to refer back to a noun that has already been stated. So TKD gives us the example yaS legh puq 'ej ghaH qIp ghaH. The ghaH's refer to the previous object and subject, and what's more, the object pronoun refers to the previous object noun and the subject pronoun refers to the previous subject noun.
After reading your explanation, I understand what 'oqranD tries to say in TKD. So far so good. But doesn't 'oqranD contradict himself with the {romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej HoHbogh nejwI'}? According to TKD shouldn't it be {romuluSngan Sambogh nejwI' 'ej HoHbogh}? Or are we to understand it as an exception/special case?
SuStel alluded to constructions like this earlier:
I mean, I get it: you're thinking of *legh 'ej qIp* as a kind of compound verb. Kind of like *The child [sees and hits] the officer.* And we have a couple of canonical examples of doing things like that.
Here, the Klingon is mirroring the English "hunter-killer probe", as though "hunt-and-kill" were one verb. -- De'vID