To get the discussion started, here's what I have in my notes: (st.k 11/1997): For example, there is an entry for "commit suicide" just in case anyone wants to look that word up; but the Klingon equivalent is simply {HoH'egh}, literally "kill oneself" ({HoH} "kill" plus Type 1 verb suffix {-'egh} "oneself") ... Maltz reports having heard both {quv'eghmoH} "he/she honors him/herself", which follows the expected order (verb-Type 1-Type 4: {quv} "be honored", {-'egh} "oneself", {-moH} "cause") as well as the weird {quvmoH'egh} .... (KGT 117): Generally, when a verb describing a state of being (for example, {tuj} [be hot]) is used in the imperative form, the suffixes {-'egh} (reflexive suffix) and {-moH} (cause) are used as well: {yItuj'eghmoH} (Heat yourself!—that is, "Cause yourself to be hot!"), {yItaD'eghmoH!} (Freeze yourself!--that is, "Cause yourself to be frozen!"). I know of one other example: muptaHvIS tay''eghmoH QeHDaj Hoch All his rage focused in one blow (PB) Anyone know of any others? -- Voragh Ca'Non Master of the Klingons -----------------------------------Original Message----------------------------------- From: mayqel qunen'oS Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2020 6:57 AM mu'tlheghmey veb vIqon: jIyoH'eghmoH I cause myself to be brave jIQong'eghmoH I cause myself to sleep jIvang'eghmoH I cause myself to act ghaytan lugh mu'tlheghmeyvam vIqonta'bogh. ('a mujchugh, vaj jIHvaD ngoDvam SovmoHjaj vay'..) 'ej DaH mu'tlhegh veb vIqon je: quv luHutlh'eghmoHpu' romuluSngan the romulans caused themselves to lack honor lugh'a' mu'tlheghvam ? Qap'a' {-'eghmoH} lo'vam ? ~ Qa'yIn