More data points: baHjan launcher peng baHjan (photon) torpedo launcher botjan shield(s) [the mechanism?] begh botjan deflector shield(s) qa'vam jan Genesis Device Saqjan landing gear voDmeH jan drill wab labwI' jan radio transmitter wovmoHbogh jan light And in referring to Klingon communicators: janmey ngo' lulo'lu'DI' pIj jabbI'ID nISpu' woj Older models were susceptible to radiation. (S19) Voragh From: nIqolay Q On Mon, Apr 8, 2019 at 8:48 AM Daniel Dadap <daniel@dadap.net<mailto:daniel@dadap.net>> wrote: I don’t know where Klingons draw the line between what is a {jan} and what is not, but I never felt like “sophistication” was one of the criteria for that. Another data point: paq'batlh uses wIjwI' jan "farmer's device" to mean "plow".