On 12/22/2018 10:55 AM, Lieven L. Litaer wrote:
Surely, and here I would even suggest the suffix {-ta'} bbeacuse that implies intention whereas {-pu'} always has the notion that it just happened.
Am 22.12.2018 um 17:20 schrieb SuStel:
*-pu'* is neutral as to intention. You might have intended it, or you might not have.
I don't agree, at least not interely. I see your point, but you cannot say that {-pu'} is always absolutely neutral to intention. While {-ta'} is explained to be used as a intention, TKD says that if there was no intention, {-pu'} is used. So, yes, TKD does not exclude {-pu'} being used WITH intention, but as it can have the notion of NO intention, the distinction can be made by choosing {-ta'} - which is surely what mayqel was talking about: "I never asked you" really sounds like "it was my intention not to ask you, and I have intentionally achieved not asking you: {not qaghelta'.} TKD 4.2.7: {luHoHta'} "they have killed him/her" ({HoH} "kill") [...] sentence above could not be used if the killing were the result of a general attack not intended to kill a specific person or if the killing were an accident. In such cases, {-pu'} would be used: {luHoHpu'} "they have killed him/her" -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Aspect