On 10/10/2017 12:51 PM, nIqolay Q wrote:
I don't see these as a spectrum, and these suffixes don't express what I thought of the nouns at the time; they tell what I think of them when I say the sentence.
It's interesting that you don't see these suffixes as a spectrum. I thought it was a good example of a spectrum of something like "increasing belief on my part that this thing can or should be described by this noun", from *-qoq* ("obviously not such a thing") to *-na'* ("definitely such a thing"). That's a good point about how they apply at the time of speaking, though. (At first I was going to argue that in the right context they could be taken to mean "what I thought of them at the time", like if they were contrasted with each other in some kind of temporal sequence, but I think that's mostly just because I really liked that example and want to salvage it somehow.)
Noun qualification suffixes applying to what a participant in the sentence is not a complete impossibility, though I don't like it. We've seen hints of similar in the verb qualification suffixes. But we haven't actually seen anything like this in nouns so far as I know, so no point trying to find a way to make it so. You might construct a similar argument based on aspect suffixes and *-ghach:* *SuvchoHghach SuvtaHghach Suvpu'ghach* for something like /fight from start to finish./ There's an unmistakable sequence here, but it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue. And with this one there's actually little point to nominalizing it; just say *SuvchoH SuvtaH Suvpu'.* Interpret it with full stops after each word if you must. -- SuStel http://trimboli.name