Thanks all for your replies! @ghunchu'wI' 1/ Regarding “Quvar vIponglu’”:
That works fine, though some people consider it extremely informal usage.
ok thanks for confirming this! Just to check, is there a canon reference on this being informal, stating that the prefix trick and / or <-lu’> suffix make the sentence informal, or is it more an opinion / deduction that some Klingon linguists have formed based on their knowledge of the language?
Thus, in Klingon, can we use a similar structure? < Quvar jIpong’egh > -- I call myself Quvar It is understandable, but I won't call it grammatically correct, and I would avoid it.
Ok I understand, thanks a lot! Plus mayqel also mentioned it could be misunderstood as "only I call myself Quvar" so it does make sense to avoid the phrasing. I thought about this further, and I figure that actually the general guideline (on reflexive vs non-reflexive verbs) is to just follow English usage (for the equivalent verbs), unless stated otherwise in canon materials. So then if someone gives an order to 1 other person to sit in Klingon, it will be < yIba’ > but not < yIba’egh >, because in English you would normally say “sit down” but not “sit yourself down” (although the 2nd phrasing does actually exist, it seems to be nonstandard). Thanks again :) 2016-10-03 16:52 GMT+02:00 SuStel <sustel@trimboli.name>:
On 10/3/2016 10:36 AM, Lieven wrote:
Am 03.10.2016 um 16:08 schrieb SuStel:
You said "So it IS true that the /word/ has a first person object, but the prefix itself does NOT."
I don't even know what this is supposed to mean.
Come on, you're not that stupid. You just enjoy nitpicking and attach yourself to my not-so-perfect scientific linguistic description. I'm sorry, I'll go study English language and linguistics before I write any other message here.
Listen, bub: I really didn't understand the phrase, because it really was that badly worded. I don't give a crap how linguistic your descriptions are, so long as your sentence makes sense, which yours didn't. Maybe if you weren't covered in nits, I wouldn't pick so much.
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