After thinking about the latest heated discussions, here some thoughts or advice for any other beginners. I believe that mayqel is struggling with some kind of a "data overflow" in a computer: In an incredibly short time, he acquired mostly all of the grammar and I'm sure he also knows a big amount of vocabulary, but his brain cannot combine it properly. What he is lacking, is experience. Only experience teaches the brain to use the learned material. Language is not a code, don't just talk Klingon, you must think like a klingon. I use to tell my students: If you encounter a problem, an idea you cannot express, then put it aside. Get used to the language, and soon you will find out that your problem was not a real problem. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka Quvar valer 'utlh Grammarian of the KLI http://www.facebook.com/Klingonteacher http://www.klingonwiki.net