Oops, should have checked the dictionary first!
On Jul 14, 2018, at 15:59, seruq <seruq@bellsouth.net> wrote:
But... we do have a [SIQwI'] entry in the dictionary already. "celebrant, recipient"
-------------------------------------------- On Sat, 7/14/18, Daniel Dadap <daniel@dadap.net> wrote:
Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] "rookie" vs "veteran" To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org Cc: "seruq" <seruq@bellsouth.net> Date: Saturday, July 14, 2018, 7:00 AM
I have been enjoying seeing the different options proposed. I like both of these contrasting pairs: chu'wI' / ngo'wI' - newcomer / old-timer (proposed by De'vID)taghwI' / taHwI' - beginner / survivor (proposed by loghaD; seconded by voragh) I like chu'wI'/ngo'wI' for its simplicity and clarity, and its suitability to just about any context; I like taghwI'/taHwI' for the same reasons, and also because it is a minimal pair demonstrating the contrast between gh and H, and really emphasizes proper speech, as voragh mentioned. However, that could also be a source of confusion, e.g. when listening to a poor quality recording. The words are also indistinguishable from each other when whispered. I think if the situation is appropriate, SIQwI' “endurer” might be good. Perhaps it might even be appropriate in a general sense. It can also take aspect suffixes to indicate whether the experience endured is complete (QI' SIQpu'wI' - one who has served in the military and is no longer in active duty; a common use of the word “veteran”) or actively occurring (Quj'a' SIQtaHwI' - one who is experienced in a sport and still participating in it; another common use of “veteran”). In response to this note from Quvar: PS: veteran in the military sense might be {SuvwI' po'} or {SuvwI' qan}. tlhIngan SuvwI'pu' qan tu'lu'be'. On Jul 13, 2018, at 23:36, Jackson Bradley <j.monroe.bradley@gmail.com> wrote:
chu'Ha'wI'? An un-newcomer?
2018-07-13 21:53 GMT-04:00 seruq <seruq@bellsouth.net>: How about bampu'wI'?
or:
bamta'wI'
bamchu'wI'
or what fine-tuning is appropriate.
- DloraH
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On Fri, 7/13/18, Alan Anderson <qunchuy@alcaco.net> wrote:
Subject: [tlhIngan Hol] "rookie" vs "veteran"
To: "Klingon language email discussion forum" <tlhingan-hol@kli.org>
Date: Friday, July 13, 2018, 12:02 AM
I am trying to find a
pair of relatively simple words that I can use to label
people as the equivalent of rookies (it's their first
time experiencing something) or veterans (they've been
through it before).
I
like {chu'wI'} "newcomer", but I can't
decide what to use as its counterpart. Have any of
you ever needed this kind of distinction, and if so, did you
come up with anything satisfactory?
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