On 10/7/2021 10:03 AM, luis.chaparro@web.de wrote:
By the way, thinking of another fixed expression,*tu'lu'*: I know Okrand compared it to English *there's* referring to plural, you were discussing that some weeks ago. But since I'm not an English native speaker, I don't know know how acceptable this use is in formal texts. Or in other words: when I write a formal text in Klingon, should I use *lutu'lu'* for a plural object, or is the form *tu'lu'* also acceptable?
It appears that *tu'lu'* is also a fixed expression. You can say things like *Dujmey tu'lu'*/There are ships./ I don't remember Okrand comparing English /there's/ referring to a plural noun. You wouldn't do this in formal English, and even in casual conversation saying something like /there's ships in orbit/ might be noticed, though it's unlikely anyone but a stickler would comment on it. I don't think Klingon *tu'lu'* in reference to a plural noun can only be used informally. It is even used this way without comment when we are introduced to it *(naDev puqpu' tu'lu').* -- SuStel http://trimboli.name