Also, we have a word for “empress”. We don’t have one for “chancellor-ess”. charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan rInpa’ bomnIS be’’a’ pI’.
On Apr 13, 2021, at 12:32 PM, Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
Am 13.04.2021 um 16:33 schrieb De'vID:
so-and-so as well as "lady" so-and-so, and thus the definition was expanded. The sexism in the vocabulary, if it's there, was accidental.
And still, the sexism is in the English translation, not Klingon.
Similarly, we have only heard about Klingon emperors on the TV shows and movies. (Are there any screen canon Klingon empresses? Maybe we missed an opportunity with L'Rell.) Undoubtedly, were a Star Trek writer to mention a Klingon empress on the show, Dr. Okrand would reveal that {voDleH}/{ta'} could also mean "empress", or alternatively reveal the correct Klingon term for this title.
Okrand had a good chance in ST6, when Azetbur took over the role of her father, chancellor Gorkon. In the scene, she was addressed as "madame chancellor".
The new word {Qang} for "chancellor" appeared in the addendum of TKD, which means it was discovered for Star Trek 6.
Of course, we can still not know if Okrand was aware of the ending of the movie, maybe not knowing that there was a female version of chancellor needed. But he translated a dialogue for a scene wit that female chancellor, and the script was very clear. Unfortunately, the word Chancellor did not appear in the translation.
Of course, this is about chancellor, not empereror.
{voDleH}/{ta'} is gender-neutral like {joH}, although, given the absence of other gendered nouns and titles in the vocabulary, this seems likely.
I think so, too. Also remember that {ghaH} and {chaH} are gender-neutral.
-- Lieven L. Litaer see http://klingon.wiki/En/ST6 http://klingon.wiki/En/Gender http://klingon.wiki/Word/Qang _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org