So, I just finished "The grammarian's desk".. the only thing I found truly useful and new, is using the {'e'} to refer to something spoken by someone else ; and since it is based on canon I will put it to use. toH ! tagha' Hoch Supmey vIlaDta'.. DaH jIleSlaH 'ej ngoQwIj vItIv : tlhIngan Hol lo'.. qaStaHvIS jar law', ghe''or vIyInpu' 'ach tagha' jIQapta'.. Qapla' ! mop Hurgh qunnoq On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 4:48 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
p. 43 :
Star Trek 6 The Undiscovered Country :
{'e' neHbe' vavwI'} my father didn't want than
"{'e'} can refer to something spoken by someone else"
..since this is obviously based on canon, I will assimilate the ghe'tor out of it !
On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 4:34 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
p. 41 :
{may' tIvchu'ghachvaD HoD 'ut jagh 'ong}
this is so tragic, it defies commenting..
On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 4:24 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
p.41 :
{-ghach} is placed on {ghItlh} without a verb suffix preceeding
On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 4:17 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
p.38 :
{jIDoy'qu'taHvIS jImugh QaQ law' jIghuHqu'taHvIS jImugh QaQ puS} I translate better when I am tired than when I'm awake
I like this a lot ; I don't know if it is acceptable, but I like it.
On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 4:13 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
p.37 :
{vavwI' Dun tIn law' vavlI' moH tIn puS} my wonderful father is bigger than your ugly father
{reH batlh Suvbogh vavwI' tIn law' taHqeq Dabejbogh vavqoqlI''e' tIn puS} my father who always fights honorably is bigger than your so-called father who certainly acts like a taHqeq
I think both of these sentences must be correct ; I can't find something wrong.
On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 1:38 PM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
thank you De'vID, for verifying my thoughts !
this is the reason I chose to read it after klingonska, so as not to mess up my understanding of proper grammar.
and because of this reason I created this thread, in order to discuss anything strange/inconsistent I read there !
On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 1:29 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote: > On 4 July 2016 at 11:09, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote: >> After reading klingonska, I targeted my sensors on the book of our >> good captain Krankor, "the grammarians desk", which I need to say that >> it was very hard to find, and as soon as I did find it, it almost cost >> me an arm and a leg. Apparently it was shipped from ferenginar.. > > The Grammarian's Desk is a slightly dangerous book. It was written > before Okrand clarified many points of grammar, so it contains a lot > of guesswork which turned out to be wrong and out of date. > > -- > De'vID > _______________________________________________ > tlhIngan-Hol mailing list > tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org > http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org