So, the following sentence which voragh wrote: voragh:
pa'Daq mo’ DOG lu'elmoH in the room, they caused the dog to enter the cage
Is wrong, and should be {pa'Daq, dogvaD mo' lu'elmoH} ? qunnoq On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 5:55 PM, nIqolay Q <niqolay0@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:43 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com> wrote:
Is the {pa'Daq dog lu'elmoH} correct for "they caused the dog to enter the room" ?
qunnoq
Voragh already discussed the part about {-Daq} being unnecessary with {'el}. As for causatives with two objects, there are a few examples where the thing being caused to do something (in this case, the dog) is marked with {-vaD}. The thing being entered (or the object of the verb, generally speaking) doesn't change its role in the sentence. The pattern seems to be that if X causes Y to do (verb) to Z, the sentence is:
Y-vaD Z verb-moH X.
So the sentence you're looking for is {dogvaD pa' lu'elmoH}.
One canon example is {ghaHvaD quHDaj qawmoH} from Skybox card 20. http://klingonska.org/canon/sbx-s19.html The English translation on the card doesn't quite match the Klingon, which means something like "It causes him [Worf] to remember his heritage", with {ghaH} marked with {-vaD}.
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