On 1 March 2017 at 08:43, Lieven <levinius@gmx.de> wrote:
Am 01.03.2017 um 00:40 schrieb DloraH:
When I first read [ HIvchu'mo' Heghta' ], the first (and I guess only) thought that went through my mind was "He (intentionally) died because he did a suicide attack." It made sense to me, so I didn't think any further on it.
KGT explicitly gives {HIvneS} as referring to a suicide attack and {Suvchu'} as meaning to fight to the death. I was trying to recall the construction from memory and came up with {HIvchu'}. (KGT does say that {-chu'} implies to the death with "some verbs of fighting", but only gives {Suv} and {Hay'} as examples.)
Thanks for confirming what I said. I didn't mean to argue that {Heghta'} is ungrammatical, it just made no sense to me that somebody died intentionally (except for commiting suicide).
In the above example, it is defined that {Suvchu'} means "fight til death" but I think it's not implied that one /intentionally/ dies in such a battle. It's not clear from KGT.
What is a "suicide mission", if not a plan of attack/defense where one's intention is to die? (See KGT p.49 where it talks about {-neS} and {-chu'} with verbs of fighting.) -- De'vID