On Wed, 27 Mar 2019 at 20:50, Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
To get the discussion started...
(HQ 12.2:7-8): For the end of a longish enclosed space that one is typically inside of or experiences from the inside, such as a corridor, tunnel, or conduit (say, a Jeffries tube or a branch of the sewers of Paris), a different word is used: {qa'rI'}. This is the only word; it's used for both (or all) ends. The open entryway leading into such a space is called a {Din}. If there's a door there, it's referred to by the usual word for door, {lojmIt}.
The KLI New Klingon Words list says this: {DIn} n. Open entryway (to corridor, tunnel, conduit, Jeffries tube, branch of sewer) [This is the open entryway of any enclosed space longer than wide in which people might find themselves. If there is a door that closes, this is not a {DIn}. It is merely a {lojmIt}.] This seems to be an interpretation which has added something to the original. In the original, it just says "a door", not "a door that closes". What if the door is stuck open? Has the entryway effectively become a {DIn} in that case, or is it still a {lojmIt} (albeit a {lojmIt DIy}). (Also, if it's stuck closed, it is a {qa'rI'}? If only we had a {lojmIt tI'wI' nuv} around here...) -- De'vID