qaStaHvIS latlh QInmey ghom, pa' jIghItlhta'; jIjatlhpu':
I don't participate in the RTTP, and I've never said, that I would participate there. If I wanted to participate there, I would translate the king james version. I've started this translation for myself, and as soon as I'd started it, naHqun and lieven suggested that I add this to the wiki, so I agreed. But I couldn't care less about the RTTP.
'ej jangtaHvIS *naHqun, ghItlhpu'; jatlhpu':
You are literally translating a book of the Bible into Klingon. And then posting your work to the KLI's mailing list. I'm not sure what distinction you are trying to make here.
Do'Ha', naDev jIghItlhtaHvIS, 'elaDya' Hol vIlo'law' pIj 'e' vIHar.. It often seems like, I'm writing in Greek here.. qay'be'.. jIQIjqa'.. no problem.. I'll explain again.. qaStaHvIS rttp, jeSchugh vay', ghelqang 'ej jatlhqang: nuq vImughnIS ? chay' jIruchnIS'a' ? ghItlh Sar vImughnISbogh yIngu'. 'ach jeSQo'chugh vay', SaHbe', 'ej wIvmeyDaj tlhIn qaSmoH. if someone participates at the rttp, he's willing to ask with regards to *what* he needs to translate, how to proceed, and from which manuscript to translate. However, if someone is unwilling to participate, he won't care, and he will follow his own choices. chaq, wa' jaj naQchoHpu' *rttp*raj; qIt. 'ach not Qapchu'. 'ej meq boSov'a' ? tlhIHvaD meqvam vIDel boneH'a' ? ghItlhmey pIm mughpu' nuvpu' pIm; jaS po' Hoch nuv, 'ej ghItlhtaHvIS, Ho'DoSDaj tlhIn lo'. 'ej ghaytan, christianity ngeb ghItlhmey lo'. vaj, tagha' nuq lIngpu' *rttp* ? 'ay'mey pImqu' ghItlh.. 'ej ghaytan christianity ngeb ghItlh 'oH je. 'ej chay' lo'laH ? Doj 'e' luHar facebook learn klingon ghom taghwI'pu' neH. Perhaps, one day your rttp will be complete; it's possible. But it will never succeed. And do you know why ? Different parts will be translated by different people, people who are differently skilled, people having each one of them different writing style. And likely, they will be using heretic sources. So, what will the rttp finally have achieved ? A heterogeneous passage, likely a heretic one too, which will be useful only in order to impress beginners at facebook. 'ej Do'Ha'bej ghu'vam.. and this will be unfortunate.. not Sarvam jInmol vIQejpu'; qaStaHvIS Sarvam jInmol, pa' jIjeS not 'e' vIjIn. 'ach, Do'Ha', mughlI'ghachwIj lungaSchugh QIn tetlhvam tlhIngan wI'qIy je, rttp 'ay' 'oHchoH.. DuHvam junlaHbe' vay'. vaj, 'Internet Daq tlhIn vIchenmoHta', 'ej pa' mughlI'ghachwIj vIchellI'. I've never held in high regard such a project, and I never wished to participate in one. However, unfortunately, if I keep adding my translation here and in the wiki, unavoidably it will become part of the rttp. So, I've created my own site, and I'll be posting there my translation. https://newtestamentinklingon.wordpress.com wI'qIy turwI'Daq, 'ay'mey vImughpu'bogh vIngabmoHpu', 'ej narghqa' 'ay'meyvam 'e' qaSmoH pagh, 'e' vIpoQ. I've deleted from the wiki the already translated parts, and I ask that noone restores them. DaH.. wIvDaj vIqaSnISmoHpu', jIQoS, 'ej chaq loQ jI'IQ. 'ach, bej wa' ngoD: wIvvam vIqaSmoHbe' net jalchugh, vaj tugh, qaS wanI' nIb: mughlI'ghach bopbogh vay' vIghItlh, 'ej berghqu'choH vay'.. mutIch, jIvangqa', 'ej ghu' nIb wISIQqa'. Do'Ha' QapHa' nughmaj. boqwI'pu' maHlaw', 'ej rut maHIvchuq. jIDoy'qu'choH, 'ej jIpuQqu'. qaStaHvIS yInwIj, qay'bejbogh ghu'mey law' vIbamnIS, (chaq rapbogh ghu'mey bobamnIS je), vaj naDev jISolQo'. bel Qu' tIvqu'nIS vay'; 'ach DuberghmoHtaHchugh bel Qu'lIj, vaj waS vay' jay'.. Because I've chosen this course, I'm sorry. But one thing is certain: If I didn't act this way, then soon, we'd have the same all over: I'd write again something with regards to this translation, someone would become irritated, he'd insult me, I'd react, and we'd all live again the same situation. Seemingly/apparently, we're all on the same side here, yet we can't stop being at each other's throat. This is sad, and I've become quite fed up by this situation. I've real-life problems to deal with, and perhaps so do you, so I don't want to quarrel anymore. Someone needs to actually enjoy his hobby; but if he constantly becomes irritated by it, then something is seriously fracked up. ~ hjkhjkh