On 2/11/2019 1:55 PM, Steven Boozer wrote:
Known examples of {Sal} “ascend” and {ghIr} “descend”, all from the paq’batlh:
SaqSub'e' muSHa'bogh pawmeH leng qeylIS, HuDmey Sal ghIq ghIr And Kahless traveled to his beloved Saq'sub, over the mountains (PB)
QIStaq 'emDaq jenchoH jul, yor DungDaq Salta'DI' tagh HarghchuqmeH poH The sun rises high behind the Kri'stak, when it rises over its top, it is time to do battle. (PB)
HuDmeyvo' ghIr chaH Over the hills, they came. (PB)
From these three examples – all referring to mountains or hills - it appears that the locative suffix is optional.
Not optional. In the first example, the object is the thing climbed, not the destination. In the second and third, the verbs in question do not have any object, but take the destination or origin as a non-object syntactic noun. (I am assuming these are not examples of "redundant, but not out-and-out wrong" uses of syntactic suffixes.) In no example is the destination the object of the verb, which is what would be required for the verb's meaning to "include locative notions." -- SuStel http://trimboli.name