Such nouns are not very common – so don’t go crazy - but they are allowed. Here are a few more I could find: ngaQHa'moHwI' key (TNK) bochmoHwI' sycophant, flatterer, one who tries to curry favor by flattering a superior (slang) KGT chenmoHwI' creator, maker KGT (e.g. Hew chenmoHwI' sculptor) najmoHwI' lullaby (n) KGT ngaDmoHwI' stabilizer (component of a ship) KGT wovmoHwI' light (device) KBoP (n) (e.g. wovmoHwI' moQ light bulb (TNK) yIntaHwI' living (person), the living PB jubbe'wI' mortal (person) (n) PB Heghpu'wI' dead (person), the dead PB yoymoHwI' inverter (device) (n) pIlHa'wI' "unmotivated one" (i.e. one who is apathetic) SaHHa'wI' one who is not concerned (i.e. one who is apathetic)) quvHa'wI' dishonored one From: tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org] On Behalf Of André Müller Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:55 AM To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Can I use verb type 9 suffix {-wI'}, after other suffixes ? Yes, there's no problem with it. If the semantics still make sense after nominalizing a verb with {-wI'} I see no problem. You could describe someone who is willing to learn Klingon as a {ghojqangwI'}, and someone who is afraid to speak a {jatlhvIpwI'}. And so on... we also have a few examples of canonical words involving {-wI'} and a verbal suffix: * {QaDmoHwI' DIr} = towel (lit.: dry-maker skin) * {Say'moHwI' tlhagh} = soap (lit.: clean-maker fat) * {Sut HabmoHwI'} = iron (lit.: clothing smooth-maker) I see no reason to think that this shouldn't work with other suffixes just as well. What's arguable not possible (but we don't know for sure, I think) is using {-wI'} on a verb with prefixes. I would probably not accept ?{muparHa'wI'} as a word for 'someone who likes me'. - André 2016-06-27 15:40 GMT+02:00 mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun@gmail.com<mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com>>: So far, I considered verb type 9 suffix {-wI'), as a suffix, one could use on a verb, which verb didn't have a preceding suffix. And I really don't know why I had that impression. But recently, at another thread, I saw someone using the verb type 9 suffix {-wI'}, on a verb which had another type of verb suffix, preceding the {-wI'}. So, I want to ask ; is this allowed ? Can I place the verb type 9 suffix, on a verb which has another verb suffix, preceding ? Of course the question would be : "why would you want to ?". Right now I can't think of a reason. However I remember that the person who had used it this way, had actually created a construction which made perfect sense, and was appropriate for the occasion. mop Hurgh qunnoq QeH SeHlu'bogh Hol 'oH tlhIngan Hol'e' _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org<mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org> http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org