thank you ca'non master ! however before I sleep, there is a final question I need to ask, in order to verify that I accurately understood this matter. if I want to say "for many years, I have my phone's sound level set at maximum", then there are two options: {DIS law', ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqroS patlh vIlo'} or {qaStaHvIS DIS law', ghoghwIj HablI'vaD wab 'aqroS patlh vIlo'} if I understand correctly what was said so far, then at this example the {qaStaHvIS} is unnecessary, right ? we can use it if we want, but it isn't necessary, right ? qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta' SuvwI'pu'qoq Hol tughojmoHta'mo' Satlho' On 27 Dec 2016 8:53 pm, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer@uchicago.edu> wrote:
Use the corresponding verbs {Qoj} or {ghob}:
(KGT 47): In parallel fashion, any specific *battle* is {*may'}*, but the concept of battle is {*vIq}*, often translated as *combat*. Similarly, there are several verbs for *fight*, *battle*, and the like. Most broadly, *do battle* or *wage war*--that is, actually engage in a conflict in which a number of combatants are involved--is {*ghob}*. The notion of *make war* in the general sense, referring to the *idea* of war and not a *specific* war, is {*Qoj}*. The verb for *fight*, whether in a war or a one-on-one confrontation, is {*Suv}*. In short, the nouns {*veS}* (*war, warfare*) and {*vIq}* (*combat*) and the verb {*Qoj}* (*wage war*) all are used to refer to the ideas of warfare, combat, and making war, while the nouns {*noH}* (*war*) and {*may'}* (*battle*) and the verbs { *ghob}* (*make war*, *do battle*) and {*Suv}* (*fight*) are used when referring to specific, concrete instances of war, battle, and fighting. Thus it is possible to say ... {*may' ghob}* or {*may' Suv}*, meaning *He/she fights a battle*, but it is not normally acceptable to say ... {*vIq Suv}* (*He/she fights a combat*).
--Voragh
*On Behalf Of *mayqel qunenoS
SuStel:
I don't think one can yIn a may'
hehehe.. you're right ! I just couldn't think of any other word !
qunnoH jan puqloD ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'
On 27 Dec 2016 8:29 pm, "SuStel" <sustel@trimboli.name> wrote:
On 12/27/2016 1:24 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
SuStel:
like a single fight during a period of three
years
I guess this means something like:
{qaStaHvIS wej DIS wa' may' neH wIyIn}
we only had one battle during three years
right ?
Er... I don't think one can *yIn* a *may'*... But *qaStaHvIS wej DIS wa' may' neH wISuv* would be correct.
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