I don't think this looks like a case of apposition; noun-noun compounds cover a wide range of relations, and this seems to be in keeping with that. A {DIr QanwI' taS} is a type of solution. What kind of solution? The skin protector type. A {wab labwI' jan} is a type of device. What kind of device? The sound-transmitter type. It isn't clear why some expressions use pure noun-noun compounds and others use purpose verbs. It could be purely by chance, or perhaps due to the fact that the first part of the compound already existed as a commonly known expression before the creation of the specific kind. It could be that certain terms have the -meH in there because at one point in time it was unclear what the relationship between the two things was. //loghaD ________________________________________ From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of Lieven L. Litaer <levinius@gmx.de> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2020 13:47 To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org Subject: [tlhIngan Hol] Apposition on wI'-nouns I have recently noticed that we have a handful of words like {DIr QanwI' taS}. When I wondered if this shouldn't be {DIr QanneH taS} I noticed that this word {taS} is added as an apposition (is that the right word?) making clear that this is for instance not some other kind of {DIr QanwI'}. This theory is also confirmed in the word {wab labwI' jan} where {jan} is added to clarify that this is not a "radio station" as the institution, but it's a device - a wab labwI' device. Now, when I tried to search for similar words, I noticed that not all of the verb-wI'+noun combinations are appositions. For instance, {bIQ ghaywI' pa'} is the "room of the shower"; It does not mean that there are different kinds of {bIQ ghaywI'} Do I see this correctly? What are your lingustic comments on this? If anyone likes to make additions to the list, see http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/Apposition -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de _______________________________________________ tlhIngan-Hol mailing list tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org