mIp'av:
Dochmey mI' sounds like a direct translation of "number of things." Perhaps Klingons use such a phrase, perhaps not.
I used the {Dochmey mI'} in order to say "a number of things", because I read somewhere at the klingon wiki, that we can use the {mI'} this way. In fact here is the direct copy-paste from my notes: ----- quote start ----- mI' number (of), quantity tlhInganpu' Hem mI' nIb an equal number of proud Klingons. ----- quote end ----- Unfortunately I didn't specify in my notes the exact source of this example. mIp'av:
mI' is presumably singular, in which case you'd use luyajHa' with the plural 3rd person subject
You're right. I was mistaken. mIp'av:
{'op Dochmey} conveys this idea without inventing a phrase.
I like the {'op Dochmey}. I like it a lot ! and because of this reason I'll add it in my notes, as an alternate way to say "a number of things". mIp'av:
You don't need to translate literally the words
I'm having trouble freeing my mind from the greek/english "prototype" passage; unfortunately I have a long way ahead, before I manage to actually "think" in klingon. mIp'av:
You also switch from using -lu' to definite 3rd person singular.
You're right. In fact, I remember some time ago, Qov pointing this out too. It seems that -for whatever reason- I keep doing this unconsciously. I'll try to keep this in mind next time. Anyway, thank you very much for your suggestions mIp'av ! qunnoH jan puqloD On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 7:28 AM, Ed Bailey <bellerophon.modeler@gmail.com> wrote:
Dochmey mI' sounds like a direct translation of "number of things." Perhaps Klingons use such a phrase, perhaps not. {'op Dochmey} conveys this idea without inventing a phrase. mI' is presumably singular, in which case you'd use luyajHa' with the plural 3rd person subject, though this is apparently the grammatical rule most often violated by Klingons.
You don't need to translate literally the words, "When you say the words 'Dark Side'." In Klingon, one of the worst crimes is to be verbose. Just say bIjatlhDI' Dop Hurgh (or put the "reported speech" first; it makes no difference. Also, even if the words have not been spoken, you can treat them as reported speech when using endings like -DI'). You also switch from using -lu' to definite 3rd person singular. If you're going to use -lu' because the subject is unimportant, then stick with it. Using -lu' eliminates the subject, although there is usually an agent, but the former is grammatical, while the latter is semantic. It's important to differentiate between grammar and semantics, because the latter is what you'd like to say (or understand) and the former is how you need to say it.
I stopped reading because I don't take Star Wars seriously. It's fun when it's not awful, but talking about Star Wars in Klingon is kind of like bringing bacon bits to a bar mitzvah.
~mIp'av
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