I'm not sure I'm missing something, but I can't find an adequate solution to translate an error message like "name missing". I know that {Hutlh} takes an object, so I may say {pong Hutlh yu'muD} I thought of {Dach}, but can an information "be absent"? It sounds like a people thing to me, but I may be wrong. Next, I think of {loj} "be all gone", a verb I have never understood how to use. If I use {ngab} "disappear", it implies that something was there before, which is not the case either. The only way I can solve this is rephrasing {pong DalIj}, so my problem is basically solved, but I still like to her your opinion about the first questions. -- Lieven L. Litaer aka the "Klingon Teacher from Germany" http://www.klingonisch.de http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/StarTrekPicard