[tlhIngan Hol] Daghtuj jaj 'oH jajvam'e'
James Landau
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Mon Jul 21 14:28:58 PDT 2025
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 15:59:57 +0000
>From: "janSIy ." <kenjutsuka at live.com>
>To: "tlhingan-hol at kli.org" <tlhingan-hol at kli.org>
>>jatlh James Landau:
>>>>>I was just thinking . . . if -Daq and other such noun suffixes can appear at the end of stative verbs that follow the nouns, aren't they really clitics >instead of "noun suffixes"?
>>Even without that feature, it's already arguable that the type 5 noun suffixes are clitics. They don't actually modify the noun, but rather perform a >syntactic purpose within the larger verb clause. The very title of the group and description in TKD imply that they are really clitics and not true >affixes. None-the-less, treating them as noun suffixes that follow all the other noun suffixes makes it much easier for non-linguists and keeps the >description simpler and more consistent.
>>If you are asking whether a linguistic description of the features of Klingon should note that these are actually clitics, then I would accept that as >most likely true. If you are asking whether we should stop calling them suffixes when talking about them in the Klingonist community, then I give >a very forceful, "No!"
That makes sense, janSIy. I guess I have a definitive answer.
Meanwhile, there were two puns from the new qep'a' words that stuck out at me immediately:
HalSIH (oil): *HISlaH*, the word for "yes", backwards. As in "Langue d'Oil".
reqnub (sclera): "Bunker" backwards. Archie Bunker was a White supremacist. The sclera is called the "white" of your eyes.
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