[tlhIngan Hol] Daghtuj jaj 'oH jajvam'e'
Steven Boozer
sboozer at uchicago.edu
Fri Jul 18 09:25:24 PDT 2025
Remember that {-Daq} et al. exhibit sine other surprising behaviors (at least to this English speaker). It appears on cardinal numbers, at least in proper names:
nImbuS wejDaq 'ejDo' 'entepray' ngeHlu'pu'
The starship Enterprise has been dispatched to Nimbus III [ST5]
Qo'noS wa'Daq baHta' ['entepray']
Enterprise fired on Kronos One... [ST6]
Also, "If a Type 5 noun suffix is used … it follows the verb, which, when used to modify the noun in this way, can have no other suffix except the rover {-qu'} emphatic. The Type 5 noun suffix follows {-qu'} ... {veng tInqu'Daq} “in the very big city" [TKD p.50]. In other words, {-Daq} attaches to the quality modifying a noun, not the noun itself. More examples:
veng tInDaq
in the big city [TKD]
wa' Dol nIvDaq matay'DI' maQap
We succeed together in a greater whole. [TKW]
batlh maHeghbej 'ej yo' qIjDaq vavpu'ma' DImuv
Then we die with honor and join our fathers in the Black Fleet... [Anthem]
If it helps, think of {qep’a’ wejDIch} as the proper, official name of the qep’a’ - i.e. the Third [KLI] Conference – a sort of inseparable phrase.
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Voragh
From: James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2025 11:12 PM
A bit surprising, but that's what it looks like . . . I searched my email box for "wa'DIchDaq* and found a post by Michael Kounenos that uses it. And a search on the Klingonia corpus for *DIchDaq* yields 28 results, some of which are lavender (meaning they're published by the KLI).
From: Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu<mailto:sboozer at uchicago.edu>>
>
> Apparently, the latter. Okrand once sent a note to SuStel:
>
> qep'a' wejDIchDaq jatlhtaH tlhIngan Hol HaDwI'pu'. ghoHtaH je. tIv'eghtaH je.
> (MO to SuStel, st.klingon 11/1996)
>
> AFAIK it’s our only example of {-Daq} and the ordinal number suffix {-Dich} used together. SuStel commented:
>
> (SuStel 12/18/1996): ... in answering my letter about qep'a' wejDIch, Marc Okrand used the phrase qep'a'
> wejDIchDaq. Now, it could be >considered just a [proper] name, but it may also be possible that noun
> suffixes can go to the ordinal number.
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