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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Remember that {-Daq} et al. exhibit sine other surprising behaviors (at least to this English speaker). It appears on cardinal numbers, at least in proper names: <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> nImbuS wejDaq 'ejDo' 'entepray' ngeHlu'pu'
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</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> The starship <i>Enterprise</i> has been dispatched to Nimbus III</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> [ST5]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> Qo'noS wa'</span></i></b><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Daq</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
<b>baHta'</b> [<b>'entepray'</b>]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> <i>Enterprise</i> fired on
<i>Kronos One</i>... [ST6]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Also, "If a Type 5 noun suffix is used … it follows the verb, which, when used to modify the noun in this way, can have no other suffix except the rover {-<b>qu'}</b> emphatic. The Type 5 noun suffix follows
{-<b>qu'} </b>... {<b>veng tInqu'Daq}</b> “<i>in the very big city</i>" [TKD p.50]. In other words, {-Daq} attaches to the quality modifying a noun, not the noun itself. More examples:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> <b>veng tInDaq</b> <br>
in the big city [TKD]<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> <b>wa' Dol nIvDaq matay'DI' maQap</b>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> We succeed together in a greater whole. [TKW]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>batlh maHeghbej 'ej yo' qIjDaq vavpu'ma' DImuv</b> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">If it helps, think of {qep’a’ wejDIch} as the proper, official name of the qep’a’ - i.e. the Third [KLI] Conference – a sort of inseparable phrase.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">--<br>
Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> James Landau via tlhIngan-Hol<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 17, 2025 11:12 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">A bit surprising, but that's what it looks like . . . I searched my email box for "wa'DIchDaq* and found a post by Michael Kounenos that uses it. And a search on the Klingonia
corpus for *DIchDaq* yields 28 results, some of which are lavender (meaning they're published by the KLI). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">From: Steven Boozer <<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" target="_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">> Apparently, the latter. Okrand once sent a note to SuStel:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">> qep'a' wejDIchDaq jatlhtaH tlhIngan Hol HaDwI'pu'. ghoHtaH je. tIv'eghtaH je.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">> (MO to SuStel, st.klingon 11/1996)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">> AFAIK it’s our only example of {-Daq} and the ordinal number suffix {-Dich} used together. SuStel commented:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">> (SuStel 12/18/1996): ... in answering my letter about qep'a' wejDIch, Marc Okrand used the phrase qep'a'<br>
> wejDIchDaq. Now, it could be >considered just a [proper] name, but it may also be possible that noun
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