[tlhIngan Hol] new verb: tlheb

[Will Martin]

Of course this brings up the topic of how to say, “I fixed the computer. It should work now.”

De’ vItI’ta’. DaH Qaplaw’ / DaH Qap ‘e' vIpIH / DaH Qapchu’ (depending on your confidence level).

pItlh

charghwI’ ‘utlh
(ghaH, ghaH, -Daj)




> On Nov 21, 2022, at 3:07 AM, Lieven L. Litaer via tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol at lists.kli.org> wrote:
> 
> At the qepHom, Maltz explained some interesting new verb and its usage:
> 
> The request asked:
> How does one differentiate between need to/must/have to and should/ought
> to in Klingon? There is a rather big difference between “I need to do
> something” (because otherwise something bad will happen) and “I should
> do something” (because it’s the honourable thing to do).
> 
> For reference:
> It was printed in qepHom 2022 booklet, page 20.
> 
> online in the wiki:
> http://klingon.wiki/En/Should
> 
> 
> -- begin quote --
>     For "should" or "ought," make use of tlheb "urge" as in:
> 
>    qagh vISop net tlheb
>    "I should eat gagh."
>    (It is urged that I eat gagh.)
> 
>    qagh DaSop 'e' vItlheb
>    "You should eat gagh (in my opinion)."
>    (I urge you to eat gagh.)
> 
>    qagh vISop 'e' vItlheb
>    "I should eat gagh."
>    (I know it's the right thing for me to do)
>    (I urge me to eat gagh)
> 
>    Note that the object of tlheb is the thing (activity) being urged,
> not the person being urged. That is, you don't say something like
> qatlheb (presumably, "I urge you"). The construction is always S 'e'/net
> tlheb, where S is a sentence whose subject is the person being urged to
> do whatever the verb is referring to.
> 
>    For "need to" and so on, of course, use the suffix -nIS.
> 
>    LL: Can I say this with the following meaning?
>    jISop 'e' Datlheb'a'
>    "Should I eat?"
>    (Do you think I should eat?)
> 
>    MO: Yes.
> 
>    LL: So I see a connection to the opinion of the second subject. net
> tlheb is a general statement, while 'e' tlheb X means that person X
> thinks that the subject of the sentence should do someting. Is that right?
> 
>    MO: Right. Almost always, the subject of tlheb is "I" or "you"
> (when it's not net tlheb), but a third-person subject is possible.
> 
> -- end quote --
> 
> Later, during the qepHom 2022, Marc Okrand clarified:
> 
>    This is not used in the case of "I repaired the computer, it should
> work now". That's a different kind of "should".
>    The usage of this expression implies the decision of the person who
> should do something. Therefore, it is also not used in a phrase like "it
> should rain".
> 
> 
> --
> Lieven L. Litaer
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