[tlhIngan Hol] non-ovs elements before the second {-bogh} of a {-bogh}'ed noun

[Iikka Hauhio]

My previous message should of course have {HoH}, not {Hegh}.

– Iikka

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On Wednesday, May 11th, 2022 at 11.15, Iikka Hauhio <fergusq at protonmail.com> wrote:

> Dana'an:
>
>> romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej rut Hoghbogh nejwI'
>> probe which locates and occasionally kills romulans
>>
>> Would it be correct? Could we place a non-ovs element before the second {-bogh} of a {-bogh}'ed noun?
>
> ​
>
> You can use the rule of thumb I mentioned in a previous message: remove {-bogh} and check if the sentence makes sense.
>
> romuluSngan Sam 'ej rut Hegh nejwI'
>
> There is nothing wrong with this sentence grammatically, so probably the relative phrase is also correct.
>
> Within reasonable complexity, you can take any grammatical sentence (with either subject or object present so that it has a head noun) and add {-bogh} to make it a relative clause. I think the only limit is how understandable it is. In you case, I had no problem understanding the relative clause, but very complex and long sentences might be less clear even if technically grammatical.
>
> Iikka "fergusq" Hauhio
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Tuesday, May 10th, 2022 at 15.09, D qunen'oS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't think this could be wrong, but I'll ask anyway to make certain.
>>
>> We have the Ca'Non:
>>
>> romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej Hoghbogh nejwI'
>>
>> If I remember correctly, charghwI' once wrote that it isn't "a probe which locates and kills Romulans", but rather "a probe of the Romulans which hunts and kills".
>>
>> But let's assume that the meaning is "a probe which locates and kills Romulans". Suppose I write:
>>
>> romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej rut Hoghbogh nejwI'
>> probe which locates and occasionally kills romulans
>>
>> Would it be correct? Could we place a non-ovs element before the second {-bogh} of a {-bogh}'ed noun?
>>
>> (Which in this case is an adverb, but could also be a time stamp, and/or a locative).
>>
>> --
>> Dana'an
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>> Ζεὺς ἦν, Ζεὺς ἐστίν, Ζεὺς ἔσσεται· ὦ μεγάλε Ζεῦ
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