[tlhIngan Hol] non-ovs elements before the second {-bogh} of a {-bogh}'ed noun

[Iikka Hauhio]

Dana'an:

> romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej rut Hoghbogh nejwI'
> probe which locates and occasionally kills romulans
>
> Would it be correct? Could we place a non-ovs element before the second {-bogh} of a {-bogh}'ed noun?

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You can use the rule of thumb I mentioned in a previous message: remove {-bogh} and check if the sentence makes sense.

romuluSngan Sam 'ej rut Hegh nejwI'

There is nothing wrong with this sentence grammatically, so probably the relative phrase is also correct.

Within reasonable complexity, you can take any grammatical sentence (with either subject or object present so that it has a head noun) and add {-bogh} to make it a relative clause. I think the only limit is how understandable it is. In you case, I had no problem understanding the relative clause, but very complex and long sentences might be less clear even if technically grammatical.

Iikka "fergusq" Hauhio
------- Original Message -------
On Tuesday, May 10th, 2022 at 15.09, D qunen'oS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't think this could be wrong, but I'll ask anyway to make certain.
>
> We have the Ca'Non:
>
> romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej Hoghbogh nejwI'
>
> If I remember correctly, charghwI' once wrote that it isn't "a probe which locates and kills Romulans", but rather "a probe of the Romulans which hunts and kills".
>
> But let's assume that the meaning is "a probe which locates and kills Romulans". Suppose I write:
>
> romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej rut Hoghbogh nejwI'
> probe which locates and occasionally kills romulans
>
> Would it be correct? Could we place a non-ovs element before the second {-bogh} of a {-bogh}'ed noun?
>
> (Which in this case is an adverb, but could also be a time stamp, and/or a locative).
>
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