[tlhIngan Hol] {je} "too" applying to the adverb

Will Martin willmartin2 at mac.com
Wed Mar 30 07:15:39 PDT 2022

Just to make SuStel’s excellent analysis even more obvious, consider the same sentence in different contexts:

chalqachDaq jIQaDbe’. 
chalqachDaq bIQaDbe’ je.

chalqachDaq bItujbe’. 
chalqachDaq bIQaDbe’ je.

juHlIjDaq bIQaDbej. 
qulDaq bIQaDbe’. 
chalqachDaq bIQaDbe’ je.

Your example assumed a specific context that you had not stated. It COULD mean what you intend, but without sufficient context, it doesn’t specifically mean what you want it to mean, because, as SuStel explained, adverbs in Klingon apply to the entire sentence/clause without the ability to specify which part of the sentence you intend to apply it to. 

You can accomplish communicating the meaning you seek to convey, but you need to provide enough context. One sentence in English probably needs multiple sentences in Klingon to convey this specific meaning in Klingon, unless sufficient context has already been shared. 

> On Mar 30, 2022, at 7:39 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> chalqachDaq bIQaDbe' je
> even in a tower you are not safe
> I think this sentence shows that the {je} "too" *can* indeed refer to the type-5'ed noun of the sentence too. I know that the translation is given as "even.." instead of "at a tower you aren't safe too", but obviously this is just a matter of choice of words. The only way I can understand it is "in a tower you aren't safe too", i.e. "among the various places where you aren't safe, is a tower too".
> So perhaps it is possible to say:
> ngugh bIpujpu'
> DaH bIpuj je
> You were weak then
> You're weak now too
> Of course one can argue that in the Ca'Non sentence we have a type-5'ed noun and not an adverb, but I think that if this use of {je} "too" applies for type-5'ed nouns, then chances are that it applies too for any non-ovs crap placed at the beginning of the sentence, i.e. adverbs and time stamps.
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