[tlhIngan Hol] {-Daq} and {-bogh} and {Sumbogh} and {Hopbogh}

[mayqel qunen'oS]

jIH:
> The sentence of {tawDaq Sumbogh Ha'DIbaH vIlegh} which I wrote earlier in
the thread,
> is indeed correct (exhibiting the ambiguity which has already been
described). In one interpretation
> of the sentence we have a relative clause which includes the {-Daq}, i.e
the relative clause of
> {tawDaq Sumbogh Ha'DIbaH}. But the important thing to notice (and I'm
talking to myself right now..)
> is that there's no {-bogh}'ed noun which has been {-Daq}'ed; the
{-bogh}'ed noun is the
> {Sumbogh Ha'DIbaH} and right before it, a {tawDaq} just happens to be
grazing.

And this is what's happening in the {ghe'torDaq ghaHtaHbogh vavwI'
wIquvmoHjaj} and {yuQDaq ghaHtaHbogh Hoch tlhIngan'e'} paq'batlh sentences.

There's no {-bogh}'ed noun which has been {-Daq}'ed; the {-bogh}'ed noun is
the {vavwI'} which being {-bogh}'ed becomes {ghaHtaHbogh vavwI'}, and the
{Hoch tlhIngan} which being {-bogh}'ed becomes {ghaHtaHbogh Hoch
tlhIngan'e'}. In both cases, after the {-bogh}ing, there's just a
{ghe'torDaq}/{yuQDaq} which just happens to be grazing in the front.

And the ambiguity exists in the first sentence as well.

The {ghe'torDaq ghaHtaHbogh vavwI' wIquvmoHjaj} may be understood either as
"may we honor my father who is in hell", or "may we honor in hell my father
who is being somewhere unspecified".

However, as far as the second sentence is concerned, there is no ambiguity
since the {Hoch tlhIngan'e'} is not only the subject of the {ghaHtaHbogh},
but the subject of the preceding {qIm} as well:

qeylISvaD jach 'ej beyDaj luqImmo'
yuQDaq ghaHtaHbogh Hoch tlhIngan'e'

Obviously, since the given translation goes: "For every Klingon on the
planet Followed her cry for Kahless" the {lu-} on the {luqImmo'} is wrong,
but who cares about this right now..

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