[tlhIngan Hol] some info about the title of Kahless the Unforgettable

Will Martin willmartin2 at mac.com
Sun Oct 10 02:46:02 PDT 2021

I’d be curious as to how the Klingonist who goes by the name pagh interprets the difference.

> On Oct 10, 2021, at 3:15 AM, Lieven L. Litaer <levinius at gmx.de> wrote:
> Am 10.10.2021 um 08:06 schrieb De'vID:
>> <Both are correct. The version in the /paq’batlh/ is older.
>> Traditionally, the phrase {lIjlaHbogh pagh} is applied to Kahless only,
>> while the newer {lIjlaHbe’bogh vay’} may be applied to Kahless and other
>> leaders/heroes as well. It would be a sign of extreme arrogance or
>> disrespect to use the {…pagh} version for anyone other than Kahless.>
> I understand this a little bit that {pagh} means a very strict
> "really-really-nobody" and a combination with {[...]-be' vay'} is a
> looser way to say "not everyone".
> (mathematically identical, but I see a difference)
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