[tlhIngan Hol] {ghIq} {ngugh} and time adverbs with time stamps

Will Martin willmartin2 at mac.com
Mon Nov 1 07:11:37 PDT 2021


Maybe if you provided an actual example instead of inventing a grammatical template out of proprietary terms like “meHed noun”, there would have been less misinterpretation and need for explanation. This isn’t Klingon. It’s meta-Klingon.

> On Oct 31, 2021, at 10:02 PM, janSIy . <kenjutsuka at live.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you read "meH'ed noun" as representing a "verb with -meH preceding a noun that it is modifying", then the verb before it could represent the main verb of the sentence.  In other words, I suspect he meant, what you would have preferred to be written as:
> adverb - verbbogh 'ej verbbogh noun - verb - verbmeH'ed noun
> 
> From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces at lists.kli.org> on behalf of Alan Anderson <qunchuy at alcaco.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2021 6:21 PM
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> Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] {ghIq} {ngugh} and time adverbs with time stamps
>  
> On Sat, 2021-10-30 at 22:59 +0300, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
> > jIH:
> > > adverb - verbbogh 'ej verbbogh noun -
> > > verb - meH'ed noun
> > 
> > Constructions as {qeqmeH taj}, {QongmeH Duj}, {narghmeH nab}, etc, are
> > obviously able to come at the end of the sentence, and it is these
> > kind of constructions which I was describing by saying {meH'ed noun}.
> 
> I misread the initial "adverb" as "verb", and understood that to be the main verb, with the {verb-meH noun} at the end being a misplaced purpose clause. I take responsibility for, and apologize for, that mistake. However, taking that last bit as the kind of construction you explained your intent to be, then I don't see a main verb at all. It's not a sentence. If you intended it to be one, then that's the real error. If it was just meant as a prelude to the remainder of a sentence, any reanalysis I might do would likely fail because of missing context.
> 
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