[tlhIngan Hol] Why the half-measure of 'e' neHbe' vavoy?

SuStel sustel at trimboli.name
Sun Feb 14 05:24:52 PST 2021

On 2/14/2021 6:17 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
> By saying {'e' neHbe' vavoy} 'a'Setbur clearly took a dump on the rules..
> ..which is pretty fine, because hey, who doesn't enjoy giving the
> finger to the rules every once in a while.
> But 'a'Setbur, honey, if you're gonna break the rules, then damn it do
> it well. No half-ass measures. No holding back. Go all the way; don't
> just say {'e' neHbe' vavoy}; say {'e' neHpu'be' vavoy}.

Two things.

First, another rule is that you can't have a type 7 verb suffix on the 
verb after the pronoun *'e'.* Yes, the book says "the second verb" 
instead of "the verb after" and there's only one verb here, but you're 
still obviously breaking the rule.

Second, what Azetbur is expressing here isn't perfective. She's not 
looking back on the entire act of wanting and seeing it as a completed 
whole, nor is she talking about the time that the wanting came to an 
end. She talking about her father's desire. This is not perfective.

You still tend to use *-pu'* as a tense-marker instead of a 
perfective-marker. *-pu'* doesn't mean /happened before/ — that's tense. 
It means /expressed as a completed whole/ or /comes to an end in the 
moment being described./


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