[tlhIngan Hol] -meH with -pu'/-ta'

[Will Martin]

Man am I rusty, or sleep deprived or something. Jeeze.

vIghro’ tIQlIj yItIv. DuQaHlaHbogh Qel QaQ vISov.

charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan

rInpa’ bomnIS be’’a’ pI’.




> On Mar 13, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Will Martin <willmartin2 at mac.com> wrote:
> 
> To me, {vIghro’ tIQ vIje’ta’meH, HuchwIj Hoch vI’anmoHpu’} sounds like I’ve already purchased the ancient cat, and then, mysteriously, I’ve paid money. The double perfective just seems weird. I have sacrificed money (burning it on an alter, perhaps?). Toward what purpose had I sacrificed the money? I sacrificed it toward the mission of having already accomplished feeding the cat. Or buying it.
> 
> I think it would be much clearer for you to just say {qatlh Huch vIHutlh? vIghro’ tIQvam vIje’ta’.} I assume you’d be smiling, proudly, with perhaps just a hint of mania behind the eyes.
> 
> … at which point I would smile and raise my hands in a non-threatening, defensive posture and back slowly out of the room while replying, {vIghro’ tIQlIj yItIv. Qel QaQ DaQaHlaHbogh vISov…}
> 
> charghwI’ vaghnerya’ngan
> 
> rInpa’ bomnIS be’’a’ pI’.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2019, at 11:22 AM, Jeffrey Clark <jmclark85 at gmail.com <mailto:jmclark85 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 13, 2019, at 10:03, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun at gmail.com <mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> {vIghro' tIQ vIje'meH, HuchwIj Hoch vI'anmoHpu'}
>>> In order to buy the ancient cat, I went bankrupt.
>>> 
>>> How would this be any different from writing:
>>> 
>>> {vIghro' tIQ vIje'ta'meH, HuchwIj Hoch vI'anmoHpu'} ?
>> 
>> The English translations seem awkward, but the distinction in Klingon makes sense to me. In the second one, you are affirming/emphasising that you did, indeed, buy the cat. Whereas in the first one it’s kinda left ambiguous.
>> 
>> —jevreH
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