<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Man am I rusty, or sleep deprived or something. Jeeze.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">vIghro’ tIQlIj yItIv. DuQaHlaHbogh Qel QaQ vISov.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 13, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Will Martin <<a href="mailto:willmartin2@mac.com" class="">willmartin2@mac.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">To me, {vIghro’ tIQ vIje’ta’meH, HuchwIj Hoch vI’anmoHpu’} sounds like I’ve already purchased the ancient cat, and then, mysteriously, I’ve paid money. The double perfective just seems weird. I have sacrificed money (burning it on an alter, perhaps?). Toward what purpose had I sacrificed the money? I sacrificed it toward the mission of having already accomplished feeding the cat. Or buying it.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think it would be much clearer for you to just say {qatlh Huch vIHutlh? vIghro’ tIQvam vIje’ta’.} I assume you’d be smiling, proudly, with perhaps just a hint of mania behind the eyes.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">… at which point I would smile and raise my hands in a non-threatening, defensive posture and back slowly out of the room while replying, {vIghro’ tIQlIj yItIv. Qel QaQ DaQaHlaHbogh vISov…}</div><br class=""><div class="">
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<div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 13, 2019, at 11:22 AM, Jeffrey Clark <<a href="mailto:jmclark85@gmail.com" class="">jmclark85@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div class="">Sent from my iPhone</div><div class=""><br class="">On Mar 13, 2019, at 10:03, mayqel qunen'oS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" class="">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div id="d_1552485795138" style="font-size: 9pt;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">{vIghro' tIQ vIje'meH, HuchwIj Hoch vI'anmoHpu'}</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">In order to buy the ancient cat, I went bankrupt.</div>
<br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">How would this be any different from writing:</div>
<br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">{vIghro' tIQ vIje'ta'meH, HuchwIj Hoch vI'anmoHpu'} ?</div></div></blockquote><br class=""><div class="">The English translations seem awkward, but the distinction in Klingon makes sense to me. In the second one, you are affirming/emphasising that you did, indeed, buy the cat. Whereas in the first one it’s kinda left ambiguous.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">—jevreH</div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">tlhIngan-Hol mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org" class="">tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org" class="">http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">tlhIngan-Hol mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org" class="">tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org</a><br class="">http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>