[tlhIngan Hol] New Words and Grammar Points from qep'a' cha'maH javDIch

nIqolay Q niqolay0 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 22 07:19:47 PDT 2019

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:15 AM SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:

> On 7/22/2019 2:52 AM, qurgh lungqIj wrote:
> This is a summery of all the new information we gained. Most of it is also
> included on the new words list, but I compiled it all together for ease of
> reference.
> *Hoy* is *be refined, be fancy, be sophisticated [pertaining to culture].*
> Does that bracketed note apply only to the final synonym, *sophisticated,*
> or the whole definition?
> That is, does *Hoy* mean *be refined, fancy, not boorish* or *be refined
> in a cultural sense, fancy in a cultural sense, sophisticated in a cultural
> sense*?
I suspect the bracketed note applies to "sophisticated" to distinguish it
from the sense of "advanced" (as in "This engineering is quite

The original request on the KLI page (which I understand MO was provided
with) was "Having characteristics associated with the upper class, possibly
due to being particularly elaborate or due to arbitrarily culturally valued
attributes. 'We are dinner at a fancy restaurant two nights ago.' 'Only a
sufficiently sophisticated individual will appreciate the performance.'"
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