[tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: jatlh

[SuStel]

On 8/15/2019 12:27 PM, Alan Anderson wrote:
> yIja''egh
>
> (an example from TKD 4.2.1)
>
> -- ghunchu'wI'
>
> On Aug 15, 2019, at 12:17 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name 
> <mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>> wrote:
>
>> In canon, Okrand has only ever used a word like *lut* as the object 
>> of *ja'.* He has never explicitly used a person as its object.
>
Hang on. I found a better example than that.

*loDnI'Daj vavDaj je ja' qeylIS*/Kahless tells his brother and father/ (PB)

But /paq'batlh/ also has *SengmeywIj vIja'laHbe'*/I cannot speak of my 
tragedies,/ *chaHvaD lut ja'*/told them his tale,/ *lut ja'taHvIS Hem 
rewbe'*/The people tell the tales with pride,/*le'yo' lutmey juja'pu'mo' 
qatlho'*/I think you, for your stories of pride/ (Hey, it's an example 
of someone saying *qatlho'*), *DaH naDev jIHtaHbogh meq Saja'*/Now I 
will tell you why I am here,/ *'ej mu'meyvam ja'*/And spoke these 
words,/ *qeylISvaD mu'meyvam ja'ta' molor qotar je*/This is what Kotar 
and Molor / Have said to Kahless,/ *ghIq pagh ja'taHvIS*/Then without a 
word,/ *quv HIja'chuqQo'*/Don't speak to me of honor!/

So going by /paq'batlh,/ it is possible to use a person as the object of 
*ja',* but it's FAR more common to use the words or information told as 
the object.

My guess: the "natural" object of *ja'* is the direct object, the 
information or words told. When using a direct object, any indirect 
object must be explicitly marked with *-vaD.* But when there is no 
explicit direct object, the indirect object, the entity to whom 
something is told, can sit in the object position.

Much like the way *-moH* seems to work with objects.

-- 
SuStel
http://trimboli.name

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