[tlhIngan Hol] Clarification on SIch

[qurgh lungqIj]

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 8:27 PM De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Can you guys translate {paqvetlh DaSIchlaH'a'} without using the English
>> word "reach"?
>>
>
> "Are you able to extend yourself to touch that book?"
>

Thanks. That's helpful.


>
>
>> I want to know exactly which meaning of "reach" you all mean because to
>> me "reaches its goal" is the same as "arrive at its goal" which Okrand
>> specifically said it wasn't.
>>
>
> He did? Where?
>

In the same place you got that "it definitely wasn't (a)". "Reaches its
goal" could literally mean "arrive at its goal", which seems the same as
"arrive at a destination" to me.


>> How would you translate these lines?
>>
>
> {paq vISIch 'e' vInID} "I extended (my arm) to try to grasp the book", "I
> tried to grasp the book (by extending my arm, etc.)" (i.e., "I reached for
> the book")
> {SIch 'e' nID} "He extends (his arm) to try to grasp something", "I tried
> to grasp something (by extending his arm, etc.)" (i.e., "He reaches for the
> book")
> {paqvetlh DaSIchlaH'a'} "Are you able to extend yourself to touch that
> book?" (i.e., "Can you reach that book?")
>

This helps clear things up. So, for you, "reach for" includes the concept
of a failed attempt?

For me "reach for" means a successful "reach and grasp/touch", while
"reach" on it's own is just the extending part. "Reach for those crisps and
hand them to me, won't you dear" was the sort of thing I often hear in my
childhood when someone wanted me to pick up something and give it to them.
"I tried to reach for the book", "He tried to reach for the book", "Can you
reach for the book?" is how they come out in my dialect, hence the
confusion.

Thanks for helping me clarify this, and learn more about English in the
process :D

qurgh
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