[tlhIngan Hol] bIje''eghchugh vaj bIHegh

Daniel Dadap daniel at dadap.net
Mon Jun 11 16:46:55 PDT 2018



> On Jun 11, 2018, at 18:43, RE Andeen <eric.andeen at outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> {bIje'be''eghchugh} sounds really clunky to my ear, though that's just my opinon. There is plenty of canon support (which I'm too lazy to look up) for {-be'} modifying not just the preceding suffix but the whole unit of meaning, so {bIje''eghbe'chugh} would most naturally be understood as "If you don't feed yourself". I keep trying to formulate an alternative meaning, where {-be'} negates only the {-'egh}, but I can't find a way to make any sense of it.
> 

“If you don’t feed yourself (but do feed others)”, which still leaves the statement as a whole true. Put on your own mask before assisting others.

I agree that putting the be' before the 'egh sounds a bit clunky now that you point it out.

> pagh
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> From: tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces at lists.kli.org> on behalf of Daniel Dadap <daniel at dadap.net>
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2018 3:43 PM
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> Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] bIje''eghchugh vaj bIHegh
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> Oh, I left out a crucial {be'} in those three phrases. I meant {bIje''eghbe'chugh vaj bIHegh}. I guess {bIje'be''eghchugh} would be more grammatically appropriate, but it sounds less like the other phrases.
> 
> > On Jun 11, 2018, at 17:40, Daniel Dadap <daniel at dadap.net> wrote:
> > 
> > We all know that {bIjeghchugh vaj bIHegh} is something you might hear in battle, and {bIje'chugh vaj bIHegh} is something you might hear when entering a store on Qo'noS, but what about {bIje''eghchugh vaj bIHegh}? It seems like a reasonable thing a restaurant proprietor might tell you, and is also more self-evidently true than the other two.
> > 
> > I tried doing a web search for {bIje''eghchugh vaj bIHegh}, and wasn’t able to find any existing uses of this phrase. However, Klingon text searches in Terran database systems can be a bit hit or miss. Surely others must have invented this same pun already, I would think…
> > 
> > At the very least, it makes for an amusing demonstration of how important the {qaghwI'} is.
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