[tlhIngan Hol] Marc Okrand talking about DSC (spoilerfree)

Felix Malmenbeck felixm at kth.se
Tue Sep 26 18:27:35 PDT 2017


> -taHjaj violates the rule that - jaj isn't used with vs7.


It's worth noting that so do «wo' DevtaHjaj ghawran» and «wo' ghawran DevtaHjaj», which are used in KGT to illustrate toast grammar. Could be seen as a mistake, but then again, using mu'mey ru' in toasts and wishes appeals to me somehow.


In any event, it's been clarified by Mary Chieffo that the sentence means "We are Klingon, let it remain.", which strongly suggests that it's «tlhIngan maH. taHjaj.»

https://www.usatoday.com/videos/life/tv/2017/09/25/can-you-speak-klingon-star-trek-discoverys-mary-chieffo-can/105832414/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-lifetopstories


...and an even stronger indication is that when I transcribed the phrase as *tlhIngan maHtaHjaj* earlier this year, Qov pointed out the vs7 + -jaj rule to me. Now that we know she wrote it, that probably means there should indeed be a space in there :P


//loghaD


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-taHjaj violates the rule that - jaj isn't used with vs7.



~Michael Roney, Jr.
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From: André Müller <esperantist at gmail.com>
Date: 9/26/17 16:35 (GMT-05:00)
To: tlhingan-hol at kli.org
Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Marc Okrand talking about DSC (spoilerfree)

Interesting, thanks for this video!

When I heard the Klingons say their favorite sentence several times in the show, I understood it as: {tlhIngan maHtaHjaj.}, literally 'May we continue to be Klingons.' - you had it as {tlhIngan maH. taHjaj.}, 'We are Klingons. May this continue.'

Both make sense, I prefer my interpretation with one verb. What say you?

- André

2017-09-26 22:22 GMT+02:00 Lieven <levinius at gmx.de<mailto:levinius at gmx.de>>:
Hi there,

visit my channel on YouTube and find an exclusive interview with Marc Okrand talking about Star Trek: Discovery and pronouncing some of the new words which had been revealed at qep'a' 2017.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBgW0YNHSfw

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Lieven L. Litaer
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