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<p>> -taHjaj violates the rule that - jaj isn't used with vs7. <br>
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<p>It's worth noting that so do «wo' DevtaHjaj ghawran» and «wo' ghawran DevtaHjaj», which are used in KGT to illustrate toast grammar. Could be seen as a mistake, but then again, using mu'mey ru' in toasts and wishes appeals to me somehow.<br>
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<p>In any event, it's been clarified by Mary Chieffo that the sentence means "We are Klingon, let it remain.", which strongly suggests that it's «tlhIngan maH. taHjaj.»</p>
<p><a href="https://www.usatoday.com/videos/life/tv/2017/09/25/can-you-speak-klingon-star-trek-discoverys-mary-chieffo-can/105832414/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-lifetopstories">https://www.usatoday.com/videos/life/tv/2017/09/25/can-you-speak-klingon-star-trek-discoverys-mary-chieffo-can/105832414/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-lifetopstories</a></p>
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<p>...and an even stronger indication is that when I transcribed the phrase as *tlhIngan maHtaHjaj* earlier this year, Qov pointed out the vs7 + -jaj rule to me. Now that we know she wrote it, that probably means there should indeed be a space in there :P</p>
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<p>//loghaD</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 26, 2017 23:09<br>
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<div>-taHjaj violates the rule that - jaj isn't used with vs7. </div>
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<div>Date: 9/26/17 16:35 (GMT-05:00) </div>
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<div>Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Marc Okrand talking about DSC (spoilerfree) </div>
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<div>Interesting, thanks for this video!<br>
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When I heard the Klingons say their favorite sentence several times in the show, I understood it as: {tlhIngan maHtaHjaj.}, literally 'May we continue to be Klingons.' – you had it as {tlhIngan maH. taHjaj.}, 'We are Klingons. May this continue.'<br>
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Both make sense, I prefer my interpretation with one verb. What say you?<br>
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- André<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-09-26 22:22 GMT+02:00 Lieven <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:levinius@gmx.de" target="_blank">levinius@gmx.de</a>></span>:<br>
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visit my channel on YouTube and find an exclusive interview with Marc Okrand talking about Star Trek: Discovery and pronouncing some of the new words which had been revealed at qep'a' 2017.<br>
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBgW0YNHSfw" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr>v=nBgW0YNHSfw</a><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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