[tlhIngan Hol] Nouns in apposition

[mayqel qunenoS]

Thank you voragh. Are there canon examples of nouns in apposition, with
type-5 suffixes other than {-Daq} ?

qunnoq

On Sep 20, 2017 5:09 PM, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:

> *tlhIngan juHqo'Daq tlhIng yoSDaq 'oH toQDuj chenmoHlu'meH Daq wa'DIch'e' *
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> 1st Construction Site: The Kling District, Klingon Home World.  (KBoP)
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> “in the Kling District on the Klingon home world” = one place (i.e. a
> single shipyard)
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> *loghDaq lupDujHom qoDDaq bIlengtaHvIS*,* nIbuQbogh novpu' DaSuv *
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> Battle menacing aliens in a shuttlecraft journey through space.  (STX)
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> “inside a shuttlecraft in space” = one place (i.e. a single ship)
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> versus:
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> *poSDaq nIHDaq je QamtaHvIS SuvwI'pu'*,* chaH jojDaq yItnIS lopwI'*
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> The initiate must pass through a gauntlet of warriors.  (S9)
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> “on the left (side) and on the right (side)” = two places (i.e. two
> separate rows of warriors)
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> --Voragh
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> *From:* SuStel
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> On 9/20/2017 9:02 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
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> Suppose I write the sentence:
>    {Qo'noSDaq SoSlI' juHDaq qajatlh, latlh be' vImuSHa'}
> "At Qo'noS at your mother's house I told you, that I love another woman".
>
> Do you agree with the above translation, or is it, that due to the absence
> of a {je} after the {juHDaq}, the meaning becomes "at your mother's house
> which is Qo'noS I told you, that I love another woman" ?
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> You could interpret it that way. I don't think the lack of a *je* makes
> the difference. It could also be interpreted as two separate locatives that
> both apply simultaneously, one being of a different scope than another.
>
> In a cavern, in a canyon
> Excavating for a mine
> Dwelt a miner, forty-niner
> And his daughter, Clementine.
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> In the verse, the locatives *in a cavern* and *in a canyon* are not in
> apposition to each other. The cavern is within the canyon. The subjects of
> the sentence both have appositional pairs: *a miner* = *forty-niner* and *his
> daughter* = *Clementine.*
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> In your Klingon sentence, it's possible that *SoSlI' juH* is within the
> scope of *Qo'noS.*
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> If the sentence did have a *je,* the meaning would be different:
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> *Qo'noSDaq SoSlI' juHDaq je qajatlh **I speak to you on Kronos and in
> your mother's home*
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> Here it's possible that you speak to me in both of those places, but not
> in a single utterance. One day you speak to me on Kronos; another day you
> speak to me in my mother's house.
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> --
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> SuStel
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