[tlhIngan Hol] Spoils of war

Felix Malmenbeck felixm at kth.se
Thu Sep 14 10:59:20 PDT 2017


Presumably, yes, hence the "[sic]"; this means that there is an error in the quoted material :)

//loghaD

14 sep. 2017 kl. 19:57 skrev mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com<mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>>:

> popwIj 'oH nach

Isn't here an {-'e'} on {nach} missing ?

qunnoq

On Sep 14, 2017 8:53 PM, "Felix Malmenbeck" <felixm at kth.se<mailto:felixm at kth.se>> wrote:
I'm thinking <pop> (or <veS popmey>) might work. In paq'batlh, Kahless says to Morath (on the subject of a targ that Kahless slew):

loDnI'wI' bIHoHta'be'
popwIj 'oH nach [sic]
juHDaq porgh Daqem

My brother you failed to kill,
The head is my reward,
You bring the carcass home.

So, here <pop> is used in the sense of a reward that is claimed, rather than one that is willingly given. Whether or not this usage is metaphorical, I cannot say.

//loghaD


14 sep. 2017 kl. 17:41 skrev SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name<mailto:sustel at trimboli.name>>:

On 9/14/2017 11:27 AM, nIqolay Q wrote:
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:00 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com<mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>> wrote:
Are you serious ? Do you really expect this kind of arguments to be taken seriously ?

If you're going to be "in-character" and treat Klingon culture as if it's a real thing, then you also have to treat the Klingon language as something we only know about from the incomplete information told to us by a single grouchy Klingon.

It's one thing to wonder in-character why no one's ever asked Maltz about spoils or why Maltz has never brought them up, but acting like there is some major deficiency in the depiction of Klingon culture simply because Marc Okrand hasn't worked his way through every entry in Merriam-Webster strikes me as incredibly stupid.

You have to learn to speak mayqel-ese. I took his initial post to mean, not "Klingon culture and language is stupid because they don't have a word for spoils," but "Klingons obviously have to have a word for spoils, don't they?"

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