[tlhIngan Hol] jIHtaHbogh naDev vISovbe'

[mayqel qunenoS]

Perhaps if it was {*DaH naDev jIHmoHtaHbogh meq Saja'} *for "the reason
which makes me be here", would make more sense.

qunnoq

On Sep 12, 2017 10:23 PM, "mayqel qunenoS" <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:

> *> DaH naDev jIHtaHbogh meq Saja'*
>
> > Now I will tell you why I am here. (PB) T
>
>
> This sounds strange too; "now, the reason which I am being here, I will
> tell you". Something doesn't make sense in this sentence.
>
> qunnoq
>
>
> On Sep 12, 2017 10:13 PM, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
>    vaj matlhutlhjaj
>
>       ghe'torDaq ghaHtaHbogh vavwI' wIquvmoHjaj
>
>    Let us drink then
>
>       To my father in Gre'thor  (PB)
>
>
>
>     yuQDaq ghaHtaHbogh Hoch tlhIngan'e'
>
>       Qomqa' Hoch Qo'noS nuvpu'
>
>     All of Kronos trembled once more,
>
>       For every Klingon on the planet  (PB)
>
>
>
> *    DaH naDev jIHtaHbogh meq Saja' *
>
>    Now I will tell you why I am here. (PB)
>
> [Thanks to SuStel for providing the translation of this last verse.]
>
>
>
>
> *   jIHtaHbogh naDev vISovbe' *   I'm lost.  (TKD Useful Expressions)
>
>
> The placement of *naDev* is certainly odd in the TKD example.  Perhaps he
> re-thought it when he was working on the paq’batlh.
>
>
>
> --
> Voragh
>
>
>
> *From:* nIqolay Q
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:53 PM, qurgh lungqIj <qurgh at wizage.net> wrote:
>
> Part of me wants to believe it's a joke phrase. Anyone trying to figure it
> out will quickly end up saying, "I'm lost! I don't get this grammar at
> all!" :D
>
>
>
> It might be a holdover from an earlier experiment in grammar, maybe
> involving the ordering of nouns in relative clauses or something, and then
> he forgot to change it back when he changed his mind. It's probably just a
> mistake, though.
>
>
>
> Maybe if someone asked about it, he'd retcon it into being some kind of
> fossilized idiomatic expression or something. I do enjoy those.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 1:00 PM, demonchaux.aurelie <
> demonchaux.aurelie at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> It is a good question - I am also wondering about this sentence, because
> somehow it feels wrong to include {naDev} at all.
>
>
>
> I like it, personally. It demonstrates how {naDev} and the other locatives
> are just nouns like any other noun.
>
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