[tlhIngan Hol] jIHtaHbogh naDev vISovbe'

mayqel qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Tue Sep 12 12:23:21 PDT 2017


*> DaH naDev jIHtaHbogh meq Saja'*

> Now I will tell you why I am here. (PB) T


This sounds strange too; "now, the reason which I am being here, I will
tell you". Something doesn't make sense in this sentence.

qunnoq


On Sep 12, 2017 10:13 PM, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:

   vaj matlhutlhjaj

      ghe'torDaq ghaHtaHbogh vavwI' wIquvmoHjaj

   Let us drink then

      To my father in Gre'thor  (PB)



    yuQDaq ghaHtaHbogh Hoch tlhIngan'e'

      Qomqa' Hoch Qo'noS nuvpu'

    All of Kronos trembled once more,

      For every Klingon on the planet  (PB)



*    DaH naDev jIHtaHbogh meq Saja' *

   Now I will tell you why I am here. (PB)

[Thanks to SuStel for providing the translation of this last verse.]




*   jIHtaHbogh naDev vISovbe' *   I'm lost.  (TKD Useful Expressions)


The placement of *naDev* is certainly odd in the TKD example.  Perhaps he
re-thought it when he was working on the paq’batlh.



--
Voragh



*From:* nIqolay Q

On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 12:53 PM, qurgh lungqIj <qurgh at wizage.net> wrote:

Part of me wants to believe it's a joke phrase. Anyone trying to figure it
out will quickly end up saying, "I'm lost! I don't get this grammar at
all!" :D



It might be a holdover from an earlier experiment in grammar, maybe
involving the ordering of nouns in relative clauses or something, and then
he forgot to change it back when he changed his mind. It's probably just a
mistake, though.



Maybe if someone asked about it, he'd retcon it into being some kind of
fossilized idiomatic expression or something. I do enjoy those.



On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 1:00 PM, demonchaux.aurelie <
demonchaux.aurelie at gmail.com> wrote:

It is a good question - I am also wondering about this sentence, because
somehow it feels wrong to include {naDev} at all.



I like it, personally. It demonstrates how {naDev} and the other locatives
are just nouns like any other noun.

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