[tlhIngan Hol] Meta: Discussions about new words found in Netflix' Klingon subtitles for Star Trek: Discovery

[Steven Boozer]

Nice page.  I've added it to my go-to pages for the show:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Discovery
WikiPedia's main page for the show; has abstracts of the aired episodes.  (So yes, there are plot spoilers if you haven't seen the episode yet!)

http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/StarTrekDiscovery
Click on the episode names for full transcripts of the tlhIngan Hol dialogue.

http://www.klingonwiki.net/En/PIqaDUsedInDiscovery
Self-explanatory.

--Voragh


From: Felix Malmenbeck

In the meantime, you can check out this document on Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/notes/klingon-language-in-the-next-star-trek/new-words-from-subtitles/1532142760178676/



It contains (mostly speculative) translations of words found in the subtitles for episodes 1-4.

Some have the subtitles they're based on listed in the comments.



//loghaD



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From: Steven Boozer
 I completely agree with Michael.  I also won't have access to the Netflix captions -- let alone access to All Access -- but I am anxious to have them in my notes.

As long as the subject line is tagged with "SPOLERS" (as well as the episode name or number to keep them straight) those who wish to avoid the discussion of each episode for a later date can do so.

--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons


From: Michael Roney, Jr.
As no one else has replied...

As someone who will never have access to the source material (the Netflix captions), I will have to rely on others to transcribe them.  I'm sure there are people on this list that would love to have the captions in their notes as well.

As an All Access subscriber, I'll be done watching new episodes before Netflix subscribers; so I'm not personally worried about spoilers.  Add in the time it takes to transcribe an entire episode, and we should be pretty close to the 48 hour spoiler guideline.

As no one has chimed in with an objection, I'd say you're safe to go ahead and start posting transcriptions.

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Felix Malmenbeck <felixm at kth.se<mailto:felixm at kth.se>> wrote:

As Lieven has mentioned previously on this mailing list, the Klingon subtitles for Star Trek: Discovery include a few new words from Maltz. These will be revealed in full at the qepHom'a' in mid-November. Until then, the only way to learn these words is to watch the show and compare the subtitles to the dialogue. Sometimes the meanings are quite clear, and at other times they require some guesswork.

I personally quite like this approach; I enjoy the "hunt", and it's actually how I first envisioned learning Klingon might work, until I learned it wasn't used consistently in the various series.

That being said, it is a bit unfair to our American chuDpu', who don't have access to these subtitles. So, it seems reasonable that those of us who *can* access them should use this mailing list to share our findings (with disclaimers that they include speculation).

So, the question then is, how shall we go about it?

Since there seems to be a consensus that we should wait for 48 ours after the US release before sharing plot details, should we have a similar guideline for words found in the subtitles?

Or should we perhaps aim to share the relevant subtitles and corresponding English sentences as quickly as possible (with spoiler warnings for the relevant episode), so that everybody can join in the analysis/speculation as early on as possible?

//loghaD
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