[tlhIngan Hol] Placement of adverbial elements

[mayqel qunenoS]

SuStel:
> Not you, mayqel

I'm not inventing new rules. I asked in case after the tkd this rule had
been expanded to include additional type-5 suffixes.

~ nIghma'

On Oct 29, 2017 11:06 PM, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:

> The point of the question was not how to make the locative noun also the
> topic noun; the point was to ask whether you could do with any type 5 noun
> what you can with a topic noun in moving it to the front. The answer is,
> you can’t.
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> *From: *nIqolay Q <niqolay0 at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Sunday, October 29, 2017 3:57 PM
> *To: *tlhingan-hol at kli.org
> *Subject: *Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Placement of adverbial elements
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> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:21 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
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> On 10/29/2017 2:01 PM, nIqolay Q wrote:
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> Since the *-Daq* is optional with verbs of motion like that, you can
> sidestep the problem entirely and just use the suffix that we know works
> here: *pa''e' nom yIjaH!*
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> The point of shifting the noun with *-'e'* is to reflect its grammatical
> emphasis by making it the first word you say. A locative noun is not a
> topic noun, so putting it first does not reflect its grammatical role.
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> Do what the book says here; don't invent new rules.
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> I'm not sure what new rule you think I've invented. Take a sentence like *pa'
> vIjaH*. Is *pa'* not the direct object of the motion verb? If it's the
> object, why can't it be topicalized and moved before an adverbial? If you
> wanted to emphasize *pa'* (as opposed to some other destination), why
> couldn't you put *-'e'* on it? The point of the question, as I read it,
> was what to do if you want to make the locative noun also the topic noun.
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