[tlhIngan Hol] use of {'el} with {-moH}

nIqolay Q niqolay0 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 21 07:55:23 PDT 2017

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 9:43 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is the {pa'Daq dog lu'elmoH} correct for "they caused the dog to enter the
> room" ?
> qunnoq

Voragh already discussed the part about {-Daq} being unnecessary with
{'el}. As for causatives with two objects, there are a few examples where
the thing being caused to do something (in this case, the dog) is marked
with {-vaD}. The thing being entered (or the object of the verb, generally
speaking) doesn't change its role in the sentence. The pattern seems to be
that if X causes Y to do (verb) to Z, the sentence is:

Y-vaD Z verb-moH X.

So the sentence you're looking for is {dogvaD pa' lu'elmoH}.

One canon example is {ghaHvaD quHDaj qawmoH} from Skybox card 20.
http://klingonska.org/canon/sbx-s19.html The English translation on the
card doesn't quite match the Klingon, which means something like "It causes
him [Worf] to remember his heritage", with {ghaH} marked with {-vaD}.
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