[tlhIngan Hol] potlh De'

[nIqolay Q]

"Values" can mean *"*Principles or standards of behaviour; one's judgement
of what is important in life." (OED:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/value)

{potlh} would imply the second half of that definition: things that are
important to Klingon families. Something like {ghob} "ethics, virtue" might
also work, but if you look at the rest of the card (
http://klingonska.org/canon/sbx-s13.html), it mentions things that might
not fall under "ethics" per se, such as the value of the family name.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:26 AM, mayqel qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:

> kbop title:
> > tlhIngan toQDuj Duj De' potlh
> > klingon bird of prey general specifications
>
> Isn't here the {Duj} after the {toQDuj} redundant/weird/unnecessary ?
> {toQDuj} by itself means "bird of prey vessel"; so why place a {Duj} after
> it ?
>
> S13 title:
> > tlhIngan qorDu' potlh
> > Klingon Family Values
>
> I can't understand how the english translation results from this klingon
> sentence. All I get is "something consequential/important of klingon
> family".
>
> qunnoq
>
> On Aug 17, 2017 6:10 PM, "Steven Boozer" <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
> Possibly it's military jargon.  It is an odd phrase, but I understand
> {potlh De'} as an "announcement" or a flash alert.  (IIRC the message was
> about General Koord being taken hostage on Nimbus III. )
>
> Okrand has used {De' potlh} "important data/information" twice AFAIK:
>
>   tlhIngan toQDuj Duj De' potlh
>   Klingon Bird of Prey General Specifications  (KBoP title)
>
>   Marc Okrand jIH.  De' potlh vIlab.
>   I am Marc Okrand and I bring you an important message. ('U'-MTK)
>
> and the noun {potlh} "consequential thing,  something important" once:
>
>   tlhIngan qorDu' potlh
>   Klingon Family Values  (S13 title)
>
> After ST5 came out, {QIn} "message" appeared in KGT and was subsequently
> used on the special reissue ST3 DVD case, though I don't know whether
> Okrand was involved:
>
>   Qugh la'vaD QIn pav
>   [Urgent message for Commander Kruge. (untranslated) ]
>
> --Voragh
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lieven
>
> While look at some canon phrases, I stumbled over a phrase from ST5:
>
> {yo'SeH yaHnIvvo' potlh De' wIHevtaH.}
> "We are receiving a priority message from Operations Command."
>
> I would have said {De' potlh} "important data" here.
> Is this an error, or is it just not much difference between "important
> data" and "data about something important"?
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