<div dir="ltr"><div>"Values" can mean <span class="gmail-form-groups"><strong>"</strong></span><span class="gmail-ind">Principles or standards of behaviour; one's judgement of what is important in life." (OED: <a href="https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/value">https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/value</a>)<br><br></span></div><span class="gmail-ind">{potlh} would imply the second half of that definition: things that are important to Klingon families. Something like {ghob} "ethics, virtue" might also work, but if you look at the rest of the card (<a href="http://klingonska.org/canon/sbx-s13.html">http://klingonska.org/canon/sbx-s13.html</a>), it mentions things that might not fall under "ethics" per se, such as the value of the family name.<br></span><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:26 AM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target="_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">kbop title:</span></div><span class="gmail-"><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> tlhIngan toQDuj Duj De' potlh</span></div></span><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> klingon bird of prey general specifications</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">Isn't here the {Duj} after the {toQDuj} redundant/weird/unnecessary ? {toQDuj} by itself means "bird of prey vessel"; so why place a {Duj} after it ?</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">S13 title:</span></div><span class="gmail-"><div><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> tlhIngan qorDu' potlh</span><br style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> Klingon Family Values</span></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px"><br></span></font></div></span><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px">I can't understand how the english translation results from this klingon sentence. All I get is "something consequential/important of klingon family".</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px">qunnoq<br></span></font><div><div class="gmail-h5"><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 17, 2017 6:10 PM, "Steven Boozer" <<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" target="_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail-m_-5227938560839560303quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Possibly it's military jargon. It is an odd phrase, but I understand {potlh De'} as an "announcement" or a flash alert. (IIRC the message was about General Koord being taken hostage on Nimbus III. )<br>
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Okrand has used {De' potlh} "important data/information" twice AFAIK:<br>
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tlhIngan toQDuj Duj De' potlh<br>
Klingon Bird of Prey General Specifications (KBoP title)<br>
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Marc Okrand jIH. De' potlh vIlab.<br>
I am Marc Okrand and I bring you an important message. ('U'-MTK)<br>
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and the noun {potlh} "consequential thing, something important" once:<br>
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tlhIngan qorDu' potlh<br>
Klingon Family Values (S13 title)<br>
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After ST5 came out, {QIn} "message" appeared in KGT and was subsequently used on the special reissue ST3 DVD case, though I don't know whether Okrand was involved:<br>
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Qugh la'vaD QIn pav<br>
[Urgent message for Commander Kruge. (untranslated) ]<br>
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--Voragh<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Lieven<br>
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While look at some canon phrases, I stumbled over a phrase from ST5:<br>
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{yo'SeH yaHnIvvo' potlh De' wIHevtaH.}<br>
"We are receiving a priority message from Operations Command."<br>
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I would have said {De' potlh} "important data" here.<br>
Is this an error, or is it just not much difference between "important data" and "data about something important"?<br>
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