[tlhIngan Hol] A question on {-chu'}

mayqel qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Wed Nov 23 11:55:52 PST 2016


I'm happy to read your reply, because it expresses my own views on the
matter..

I noticed that you translated the {mIghchu' Dujvam} as "this ship is
totally evil". And while I was writing the original post, this is exactly
what I had in mind.

All the other sentences, express a magnitude of sorts.. It is as if they
answer to the question "how much evil is this ship" ? So, they say
something like "a lot of evil" "excessively evil" and so on..

But the {mIghchu' Dujvam}, doesn't express a quantity. It says "this ship
is perfectly evil"; the way I *feel* the "perfectly" is that it is "purely
evil". "evil to the core". not 80, 90, 98 percent. no. it is "evil
incarnate".

Now, why is this important ?

I read somewhere at the klingon wiki, that perhaps by the use of a
construction such as {tlhoy mIghqu' Dujvam} we could form a superlative of
sorts (if that's the correct term).

but I think that by the use of the {-chu'} we could achieve the same. Of
course a lot has to do with context and obviously the {-chu'} and the
{tlhoy ...qu' noun} aren't interchangeable, but I think that the {-chu'} is
a wonderful addition to our linguistic options.

DaH, jIQong !

qunnoH
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'

On 23 Nov 2016 9:31 pm, "SuStel" <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:

> On 11/23/2016 2:21 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
>
>>
>> wa'maH tup ret, jIQongrup 'a pay' nargh qay'wI'vam:
>>
>> read these sentences:
>>
>> a. mIghqu' Dujvam
>> b. mIghchu' Dujvam
>> c. tlhoy mIgh Dujvam
>> d. tlhoy mIghqu' Dujvam
>> e. tlhoy mIghchu' Dujvam
>>
>> first question:
>> which of these ships is the most evil ?
>>
>> Now, I think that the sentences d and e, although they are grammaticaly
>> correct (at least I think they are), they don't "sound good". and because
>> of this reason I wouldn't use them.
>>
>> So, we come to the second question:
>>
>> a. mIghqu' Dujvam
>> b. mIghchu' Dujvam
>> c. tlhoy mIgh Dujvam
>>
>> Of these three ships, which is the most evil ?
>>
>> and finally..
>>
>> a. mIghqu' Dujvam
>> b. mIghchu' Dujvam
>> c. tlhoy mIgh Dujvam
>> d. Duj mIgh law' Hoch mIgh puS
>>
>> Same question: which of the ships above is the most evil ?
>>
>> maj ! DaH jIQong..
>>
>>
> Play the same game in English.
>
> a. this ship is very evil
> b. this ship is totally evil
> c. this ship is too evil
> d. this ship is too very-evil
> e. this ship is too completely evil
>
> Which ship is the most evil?
>
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